The Interview Over Breakfast, Lunch or Dinner

On this show, I talk about planning for the interview over breakfast, lunch or dinner

 

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The Job Interview Over Breakfast, Lunch or Dinner

When someone I am representing for a job with a client emailed to tell me he was scheduled for a dinner interview with three people on Monday, I was reminded that how to do a meal interview is a subject I have not addressed in my articles and books yet.

Lunch or dinner interviews are actually very easy. It is an interview. It is an opportunity to assess your knowledge and manner, just as they would in an “in the office” interview. The problem is that most job hunters succumb to the more casual setting to lower their guard and be sufficiently revealing as to make it easy for an employer to disqualify them from consideration.

There are obvious ways that this occurs— the person who drinks too much at the interview and acts like a fool. There is the more subtle way of ordering the wrong dish and leaves food on their face and makes it hard for them to be taken seriously (never order a dish with lots of barbecue sauce).

Here are a few points to remember when having a meal interview:

•  Arrive on time; if you are going to be late, call ahead. When you arrive, apologize and explain the lateness (the cab driver got lost; there was an accident that caused a traffic jam; the GPS in your car gave you the wrong directions).

•  When introduced to each person by your host, offer a friendly smile and a handshake (if the handshake is denied, there may be a religious reason for a denying the handshake; just move on in your mind and don’t get caught up in it).

•  When seated, ask where they would like you seated. If told to seat where you like, try to sit opposite your host.

•  This type of interview is just like a panel or group interview in an office setting but it includes food.

•  As I mentioned before, avoid sloppy food. Avoid drinking an alcoholic beverage. If you are encouraged by your party to do so, reply by saying, “As much as I would like to, I am on an interview and want to make sure I’m at my best.” If you are uncomfortable with this wording, pick language that fits your personality.

•  Before ordering, if you are at a restaurant you are not familiar with, ask the members of your party, “Have you been here before? What would you recommend?” Ideally pick something they recommend.

•  Avoid the most expensive item on the menu; pick something that is “middle of the road.”

•  Generally, the interview part of the “festivities” begin after everyone orders. Be ready!

•  My preferred way of starting the Q&A is for the job applicant to start it. As I suggest in traditional interviews, start off by thanking them for taking time to meet with you. Then continue by saying, “So far, I’ve spoken with (mention who you’ve spoken with about the role) and they have given me their take on the position but, I was curious about yours. Tell me about the role as you see it and what I can be doing to help.” This may result in being asked what you’ve been told so far. Be prepared to answer!

•  When asked a question in a panel or group interview, you would not speak only to the person who asked the question. You would speak to each individual person starting first with the person who asks the question, switch your gaze to the second person, then a third before concluding with the questioner. The same is true in a meal interview.

•  Make sure you don’t only speak about what you’ve done. Speak about what you’ve done in the context of what you’ve been told they are looking for someone to do (or have experience doing). Too often, people lose track of what the goal is in the interview—demonstrating that you have experience that fits what the employer needs done. Nowhere does this happen more often than at a lunch or dinner interview.

•  When the food arrives, start to enjoy your meal. If they ask you a question, put your knife and fork down to insure that you are not tempted to eat and talk. Use manners that will make your mother proud of you!

•  Be prepared with questions to ask when offered the opportunity ask some. These may include milestones that need to be met, what success would like for you, commitments that need to be fulfilled, reporting structure . . . work related questions, not compensation questions.

•  Avoid dessert even if the others are having it. Stick with coffee or tea instead. Sweet things and after dinner drinks have a way of causing interviews to go badly.

•  When the bill arrives, thank the person who charges the meal simply by saying, “Thank you.”

•  Before everyone separates at the table or at the coat check (offer to pay the coat check for everyone if you can afford it), make a point of saying, “I just want you to know that I am interested in the role we’ve discussed. What would you expect the next steps to be?”

•  Send a thank you email to each person and expressing your interest in the role. ONLY DO THIS IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.

If you follow my advice, you may not be hired but it will not be because you committed a faux pas or “misbehaved” during the meeting. It will be because they perceive a skills deficiency they judge is essential for the role.

And more often than not, you will be hired because, the fact is, when asked to a lunch or dinner meeting, they are already favorable disposed to hiring you and you have done nothing to change their mind about you.

© 2011 all rights reserved.

Presenting at the Whiteboard? It Doesn’t Have to Feel Like Torture!

Two people I was representing for different jobs were asked to go to the whiteboard and present to their audience. One truly excelled; one fell flat on their face proving the truth of the statement, “A mediocre whiteboard presentation will result in interview death.

Here is how to excel.

1. Practice your impromptu drawing and your presentation. Never, Never,  Never wing it. If you think there is a possibility of having to present at the whiteboard, practice the presentation.

2. Be aware of what you wear. For a Caucasian, wearing white shirts or blouses at the whiteboard will cause your audience to lose interest in your presentation as you blend into the background.

3. Use strong colors when you write and reserve red for particularly important points

4. Try to avoid starting your presentation at the whiteboard. Try to use your movement to it to making an initial strong point in your presentation.

5. Make sure your handwriting can be read clearly anywhere in the room. This also involves checking the room for glare and dimming lights if appropriate. Write with letters that are about 2-3 inches large at a minimum.

6. Be aware of how you appear when you walk around during your presentation.

7. Want to point out something factually incorrect and do it in a powerful way? Tell people what most people believe and write it on the whiteboard. Then write down what you discovered and put a big red “X” right through the incorrect statement.

8. If someone wants to start sketching things out with you at the whiteboard, treat it as a fun exercise, rather than a threat or “an ego attack.” Often, interviewers will try to “break someone” by walking up to the whiteboard and challenging a point of the presentation and watching for your reaction.

© 2009 all rights reserved.

Do You Blog? Why Not?

Although you may be looking for a job now, it is important to think long term about how to create a strategy for yourself that allows hiring managers and recruiters to “find you” when they have positions that might be interesting.

Why is that important?

To undertand why that is important, you have to understand that recruiters, both corporate and third party, have the idea tat people who are not actively looking for work are superior potential hires that people who are actively looking for a new job.

I know I can debunk this myth in less than 5 minutes but, regardless, the bias is well ingrained with people in HR and in recruiting.

Blogging is an easy way to put yourself in a position where people can find you by writing articles or brief entries about professional subjects in which you have some area of competence or expertise.

“How to” articles are good subjects to write about.

So are stories that explain a number of steps in order to accomplish something like the article I have to the right– “7 Steps to Winning Interviews (People tend to think they can follow 7 things and get the result they want).

Creating a blog can be easy. If you don’t have an exiting website, you can create a blog at Blogger.com as I originally did when I first started to write in 2001.

Another way to do it is using WordPress. Most webhosts offer WordPress for free as part of their service. You can follow instructions about how to install it with your webhost (it takes less than 30 seconds plus there are many many themes (the term wordpress uses for the templates that your site can use).

Simplest is Blogger; better looking and with more features is WordPress.

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Smart Candidate. Great Interview Results

Before a job interview I schedule, I talk with the job applicant about the job, the company, what they can expect on the interview, who they will be speaking with and send them the LinkedIn profile of the person and tell them to go to the company website.

Other than listen to the job description and the LinkedIn profile, you can tell who’s listening and who isn’t.

But this person actually did listen and he actually went to the company’s website researched the line of business that he would be working in and casually mentioned some things that were not in the job description but were on the website.

“That’s great,” the practice head said excitedly. “We need two people like you to do exactly that for different clients!

 

Now that’s the way to make a great impression!

 

© 2010 all rights reserved.

Video Job Interviews

Someone I am representing for a job has done well on his initial rounds of interviews with my client. They want him to meet his future boss but schedules have been a problem. He is a successful account executive, travel all the time supporting clients; so is his future boss. The solution was simple– a video conference set up at a facility in a city each will be in so they can finally connect.


© 2011 all rights reserved

 

7 Tips to Winning Interviews

Let’s take a minute and examine what many interviews look like from the employer’s vantage point. This means not just listening to the answers to questions about behaviors that occur during the interview that affect our judgment and decision-making. Now, before you start a campaign criticizing me for suggesting that it is stupid to take such trivial matters into consideration, you are naive to think that it is not irrelevant to look at behavior during the interview. After all, when advertisers, television producers and movie directors create a product to sell to you, they do so conscious that every detail of their presentation affects whether you would consider buying their product or liking their movie. They target every detail for optimal affect.

So, let’s think for a second about how a receptionist at an employer feels if he or she is treated abruptly or rudely when you arrive at an interview. Do you think they might they periodically mention something to an interviewer? And if you refuse to complete an employment application, saying that all the answers are in your resume, how does an employer interpret that behavior?

These are a seemingly few trivial mistakes that people consistently make year in and year out. There are many others that people make. Let me share a few things to do and not to do.

1. When you are asked to wait for a few minutes until the interviewer arrives to greet you, sit facing the greatest number of entry points to the room so that you can see them approaching you. There are few things worse that you can do, than to lose your focus in that book that you are reading and not be conscious when someone comes out to greet you.

2. The handshake needs to be proper. There are many cultural differences that exist between proper interview behavior in the US and elsewhere in the world. Here, a firm handshake and eye contact while you do it is expected. To shake hands weakly, to “pump the handshake as though you were a well,” to break the other person’s hand off while you shake it, to avoid eye contact are interpreted poorly in this culture. If it is a winter’s day, you need to arrive at the office building where the interview is being conducted early enough to warm your hands; in summer, you need to arrive early enough to cool off. There is nothing worse than shaking hands with someone whose hands are frozen or in summer with someone whose hands are slippery from sweat.

3. What do your shoes and clothes do or not do? Every firm has a corporate culture–formal or informal. Whichever one it is, you need to dress appropriately for it. Your clothes should be well-pressed, your shoes having a shine to them. Your wardrobe should suggest success without screaming “PAY ATTENTION TO ME.” This is true for men and women alike.

4. Prepare for what interviews ask. Most interviews start in a fairly predictable way, asking you to summarize your career. They may even ask something like, “Tell me about yourself and what you’ve been doing professionally?” Prepare your answer to questions like this before arriving to the interview. Also prepare for the natural follow up questions to your answer without giving the impression that you are too well-prepared. Practice. Practice. Practice. Make your answers seem spontaneous, even when they are rehearsed. You know what the job description is that the company is attempting to hire for, what would you ask to confirm that you are qualified?

5. Try to make a personal connection with every person who interviews you. Do I need to say more?

6. Be prepared to speak about what you’re looking for and why? This is both a tangible question about the nature of the job you’re looking for and a question that speaks to your character. Many people arrive with unreasonable demands and expectations. Some people answer as though they lack ambition. Think about it before you arrive for an interview.

7. Have some questions to ask the interviewer? Look at the company’s website before the interview to learn about the company. Ask them to speak with you about the project the group is working on and how your role would fit into the team. What their expectations are for you? What is the due date for the project? What would you have to do to be rated as an exceptional employee vs. an average one? NOT asking questions suggests lack of ambition or disinterest. Ask a few and ask the interviewer to clarify a point or two about the job.

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Skype Interview Basics

It may be hard to imagine but there was a time when there were no phone interviews. After all, employers and job hunters were local and each expected to meet one another in person several times before a person was hired.

At a minimum now, the initial screening interview is done by telephone and no one thinks twice about being interviewed by phone.

Skype has made its way into the arsenal of tools both third party and corporate recruiters are using for pre-arranged sessions. So although I don’t like video resumes, I do like Skype and I know a number of my clients use it to reduce costs for interviewing and save time.

Assuming you have a Skype account (and if you don’t, here’s where you can sign up to get one or download an app to your smart phone), here are a few basics you need to consider when preparing:

1. Select a simple but basic background for your interview

A blank wall is boring. Busy print wall paper is distracting. Think of having a book case with books neatly placed on them. Think of having an étagère with plants behind you. a simple backdrop that provides some depth to the view, is not distracting but does not give the impression of you taking “a mug shot photo.”

2. Setting up an account? Make sure your ID is not obnoxious or immature.

Enough said.

3. Be aware of lighting on your face.

You don’t want to be in shadow or have fluorescent lighting make your face too bright (in my case, having the light create a shine from my bald head). Natural lighting on your face is ideal however, if you are doing the session at night, be sure to test your appearance to highlight your face.

Don’t forget to check for glare in your glasses!

4. Dress for an interview

From experience, I know that even if an employer wants to hire someone who has dressed down for an interview, they often offer less money. Dressing down for the interview can cost you thousands of dollars.

For example, if an employer offers you $5000 less (and often it’s more) than they might have otherwise and you stay with them for 3 years, your lost earnings are almost $15500 (three years of lost income plus the lost value of a modest 3% raise each year).

Do you really want to give up that much money to dress in a t-shirt?

In addition, be aware of your background when you select color. Generally darker colors will allow you to appear strong against a lighter wall.

5. There are two schools of thought about where to look.

One says look at the camera; the other says angle your camera to create the illusion you are looking at the interviewer.

The look at the camera advocates believe that it creates the impression of creating eye contact.

The “angle the camera” advocates believe people waste too much energy staring at the camera and underperform on the actual interview.

I haven’t formed an opinion yet on this; experiment for yourself with this by askinga friend to speak with you via Skype and offer their impressions.

6. Smile, particularly when the session connects.

One of the things I learned early in my career is that it is more powerful and effective if someone smiles at the beginning of their interview and then becomes serious than if they are only serious.

The “only serious” person is asking the interviewer to only hire them based upon their knowledge or skills. The “smile, then serious” approach affords the candidate and employer a few minutes to connect as people before getting serious. Often that connection can be the tiebreaker between candidates.

7. Keep your answers to 30-60 seconds

Most people have a limited attention span. Keeping your answers to 30-45 seconds but “slipping” to 60 seconds helps to create a give and take to the interview. The interactive nature of the conversation will keep the interviewer engaged.

8. NO DISTRACTIONS!

If others are home when you are doing the Skype interview, make sure they know to keep things quiet, not interrupt you or “stomp around” while you are interviewing.

Ideally, others should be out of the house to guaranty this (take the kids to the supermarket for something) but sometimes this isn’t possible.

9. Speak clearly and enthusiastically

Skype isn’t perfect technology and for people with accents, sometimes it is hard to be understood. Remember to enunciate and not rush what you say.

10. Practice

I believe you rehearse/practice everything in job interviewing and this is no exception. Don’t listen to other’s negativities; it is just another skill to be practiced and mastered.

© 2013 all rights reserved.

What’s The Firm’s Corporate Culture Like?

I was recently asked a question by someone I was interviewing for a position with a client.

“Jeff, I saw your website and I see you give people a lot of good advice. There are some people who are interning as part of their post graduate program and are now looking for jobs. When they are interviewing, they are finding that the companies they are interviewing with are not interested in their ability to think. They seem to be interested in their ability to quickly spit back answers to questions.”

He’s right. There are many firms that are interested in someone’s ability to answer obscure questions that have nothing to do with the job being interviewed for.

You learn something about an employer when they conduct interviews like this–they are not concerned with your ability to think; they care about you doing robotic work, kind of like in manufacturing or the white collar equivalent.

That’s true of the hedge funds that think they are clever when they ask brain teasers (why is a man hole cover round? Ans: It is only round in the USA. In other countries they may be shaped differently. In the US, the cover is round because the hole is round). These firms want to see whether you can work your way through a puzzle and think creatively under pressure. In fact, the answers to these brain teasers are readily found on the web.

I am someone with a Masters in Social Work. Whether you think the degree has any value, it teaches the notion of understanding how systems function.

There is a corporate culture in every organization for entry level professionals and, often a different corporate culture for sales people, experienced staff, midlevel managers and executive management.

There are different expectations and morays for people in different job categories and different businesses.

There is a different culture for the many categories of staff at a bank like PNC than there is at Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley has a different culture in each different category of function and experience than SONY.

Your job is to try to proactively understand the expectations and culture before interviewing and certainly before joining.

How?

Go to LinkedIn, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Google+ and find someone who worked in the department at the level you would be joining and contacting them.

Ask them questions about what it is like to work there and what will be expected of you. What are raises like? Do they know your future manager? What are they like?

© 2011 all rights reserved.

Group Interviews: The Way to Answer Questions

There are a group of men who I have been meeting with for the past five years. We help one another with being the men we have always wanted to be. Sometimes, those involve personal issues; sometimes, it involves professional matters.

One of the men came in this week and spoke about an upcoming interview he has at a university where he will meeting with two or three people who will jointly interview him (He did not ask for advice but he subscribes to my ezine so I hope he reads my suggestion here).

When you are in a group interview and are asked a question, start answering the question by speaking to the person who asked it.

Since most answers take 5-10 sentences, as you finish the second or third sentence, turn your head to continue answering by speaking to the second person. If the person is seated at a distance from the questioner that makes doing that physically difficult, use your legs to gently turn toward the second person while continuing to speak.

If there is a third person, look at them as you speak the next sentence.

No matter what, your last sentence needs to be spoken to the person who posed the question.

Doing this is much of what experienced tv guests do when they are on a panel show. Watch them, they look at differnt people as they answer questions. Sometimes, they look directly at the camera. What they never do is only speak to one person unless they are being interviewed by one person.

© 2008 all rights reserved.