Career Suicide

Let’s talk about the job hunter relationship with recruiters.

I will preface this all by saying not every recruiter is capable.

Not every recruiter is experienced.

As a matter-of-fact some of them lie and are incompetent.

Be that as it may,  let’s also talk about job hunters.

 

In the recruiting business, there are couple of basic jokes that we tell.

The first joke that we tell new recruiters is, “How can you tell a job applicant is lying to you,” and the answer is “Their lips are moving.”

The next joke is “How can you tell an institutional customer is lying to you? The answer is, “Their lips are moving.”

The third one is “How can you tell a recruiter’s lying to you?” The answer is, “Their lips are moving.”

It’s not that ever was necessarily lying; everyone is posturing for advantage—you, the recruiter, the employer– everyone is trying to get the best deal possible.

However, let’s talk with you about stupid thing that job applicants sometimes do.

Let me tell you a story from for recent week of mine.

There’s a person I’ve been working with who’s is a very experienced guy in IT. I met him about six weeks ago; he has been out of work for five months.

I didn’t understand why until I start working with him.

He says one thing to me and says something different to a client down

I have relationships with the firms I recruit for; I’ve worked with them for years; they trust me.  With one of the firms, I’ve work with them since they were half 1 billion in size and now they do close to $8 billion in revenue.

so I go back with them a long time and have worked with this practice for many years.

I asked the job hunter a simple question.

“Would you accept less than what you’re manking now?”

He says, “Yeah I guess so.”

“How much less?”

He tells me.

I talk with my client; they were unwilling to pay what he was previously earning; they just didn’t see the value in it.

The number he now quoted to me was now something they found acceptable.

So I scheduled interview for him.

He talks to my client; they ask him how much will you accept?

He starts with the original salary.

Wrong. You don’t do that.

The impact of that was they come to me; they asked me about I tell them about my conversation with him and they, in turn, respond by saying, “No. We want to verify that;” So they call him a second time and ask the question again.

He stated the same high number and they said, “We’re not interested.”

That’s the impact of your deception.

You say one thing to a recruiter and then you say something different to the client.

You think you can negotiate at the end but can’t.

You have to at least make them fall in love first because, as I say to people all the time, “No love? No money. No honey.”

You can you can say things like, “I was making such and such and am flexible. I prefer not to be flexible but if it’s necessary to get a good job with an organization I respect and admire, I’ll take a few dollars less.”

But when you say one thing to a recruiter and something different to a client,  understand the company and the recruiter have a lengthy relationship with one another.

They know you’re lying.

They know you’re blowing smoke at them and they won’t tolerate it.

They start asking themselves pretty quickly “What else is s/he lying about? Where else are they are they going to give me a headache that I don’t really need to have?”

“We don’t really care because we are looking for someone who’s honest and forthright,  not someone who’s going to, shall we say ‘finesse us all the time.”

Be honest about things.

If you say something to a recruiter stick with it.

 

© The Big Game Hunter, Inc. Asheville, NC  2016

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube  for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me questions via phone, Skype or Facetime? Have your job search questions answered.

 

The Faster . . . FASTEST Way to Find a New Job

 

I have alluded to this in earlier videos but this really is the FASTEST way to find a new job.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube  for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me questions via phone, Skype or Facetime? Have your job search questions answered.

 

Job Search Lessons from Super Bowl 50

On today’s podcast, I discuss the big lesson from this year’s game

 

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit http://www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube  for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me questions via phone, Skype or Facetime? Have your job search questions answered.

Job Search Lessons from Super Bowl 50

 

I discuss the big lesson from this Super Bowl.

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The Super Bowl.

Super Bowl 50.

Peyton Manning. Great game!

Cam Newton. Not so good a game.

Every year I offer some information about a big lesson that we can take away from the Super Bowl. For this one, the observation I have is a pretty easy one.

The lesson really relates to older workers.

You’ve been asked to believe that as an older worker you’re subject to ageism.

I’m not going to say you’re not, but, with belief and with the determination to deliver, you can be someone who gets the job.

The Panthers were clearly a favorite team; they were young, hungry and coming off a great season. They had an MVP quarterback. The best coach in the league. Both were voted that the day before.

They walked into the game and they were metaphorically punched in the mouth by a tougher team.

Yes, the MVP the Super Bowl was a young player but every last one of the older players played tough, played hard and played effectively.

For you older workers, Denver was clearly an older team led by the oldest quarterback ever playing the Super Bowl, led by players who had been in the league for a long time on the defensive side of the ball.

For you older workers, sometimes you make excuses for why you don’t perform, why you play big on the stage, why you as an individual don’t deliver the goods.

You point to the fact that they were biased against you walking in the door because you are older.

I can telling you, “Don’t buy the bull.”

Most of the time I hear the feedback and the reason isn’t, “Well, yeah, he wouldn’t fit in here,”  which is the euphemism for old.

It’s that you didn’t really show up well.

I need to remind you that the big lesson from this game is really about delivering on the big stage.

You walk into that interview, you deliver; you deliver hard and strong and fast and don’t really worry about your age being a factor.

That’s the limiting belief that allows you to tolerate mediocrity.

“Oh, well, they won’t hire me because I’m old.”

Denver certainly proved that myth to be false.

All the players delivered on a big stage and won a huge victory.

I’ll simply say that I expect we’ll see Carolina back in the future but for one night, one opportunity, this was the victory of the older professional stand out there and hold the trophy and be the winner.

You do that for yourself as well if you play, if you deliver, if you prepare and execute the plan perfectly.

 

© The Big Game Hunter, Inc. Asheville, NC  2016

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube  for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me questions via phone, Skype or Facetime? Have your job search questions answered.

 

Instead of Asking “Tell Me About Yourself”

Based upon an interview on the “Reply All” podcast called “Raising The Bar” focused on diversity, I share an alternative question to start your interviews.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube  for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

 

Repeatedly Rejected After The Final Interview?

 

Have you been rejected as you reach the final stage of interviewing? In this video, I speak to a job hunter who this has happened to several times and offer a possible reason.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube  for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me questions via phone, Skype or Facetime? Have your job search questions answered.