Getting Clear With Your Recruiting Vendors

I frequently listen to junior people in my office gather requirements from clients about jobs they are going to fill.

Sometimes they take the job description orally; sometimes, they receive an email that outlines what the firm is looking for.

Too often, they make a mistake.

They forget to ask you what the interview process will be like.

I don’t mean the names of the people who will be doing the interviewing and I certainly don’t mean the specific questions either (Although if you want to tell me the questions, I won’t stop you).

I am referring to what the people who will be involved with the assessment process be looking for when they evaluate someone.

Now before you say, “They are looking for someone who is qualified to perform the tasks associated with the job,” and before I say, “Bull,” let me give you some examples.

A not-for-profit that wants to know if the people they interview for finance or tech jobs “have a heart.”

The manager at a consulting firm who arrives as the last person to interview senior technologists and asks them to define terms in their resume.

The firm that rejects a temp for an assignment because the job applicant who met someone for five minutes could not remember the person’s name that was said one to them and referred to them as “The Benefits Lady.”

Do you think these scenarios allow someone to be evaluated for their qualifications? I don’t.

So when you speak with a third party recruiter and provide them with a job description, PLEASE provide them with a description of the interview process will be like and what each will assess for, not so I can prepare the job applicant. I want to know this so I can do my job more effectively and qualify the people I refer to you better.

 

 

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No B. S. Job Search Advice: Working With Recruiters? Stretch Yourself.

 

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter encourages you to stretch yourself when working with recruiters.

 

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a recruiter for more than 40 years.

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Hangout with Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter: What Recruiters Look For and Don’t Look For

 

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter discusses what recruiters look for and don’t look for when they scan resumes.

 

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a recruiter for more than 40 years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Email me if your firm is trying to hire someone.

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Pay what you want for my books about job search

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

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No B. S. Job Search Advice: Negotiating Salary Through a Recruiter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter explains the dirty little secret of working with a recruiter and how to negotiate salary when you are being represented by one.


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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a recruiter for more than 40 years.

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No B. S. Hiring Advice: Recruiters. Can’t Live With Them . . .

I offer some thoughts about some of the benefits of working with third party recruiters as part of your recruiting efforts.

 

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a recruiter for more than 40 years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

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Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Evaluating Recruiters

The former hiring manager was appreciative for the advice he received.

“I have never received such coaching in my career,” he said.

“You’re welcome,” I replied.

“First of all, the questions you taught me for the interview were terrific and well-received. Then, you gave me info about the people I would meet with and what to expect from each.”

“But most of all, your manner just calmly told me to relax and deliver the goods during the meeting. As you can imagine being out of work as long as I have and not getting many interviews and believing that this one was so important, your information and your manner relaxed me and gave me confidence going into the in-person meetings. Thank you.”

“You’re welcome.”

So this is article is not to toot my horn but to point out one of the differences between recruiters.

Many can “prep you (prepare you)” for the interview with speeches that sound reminiscent of something like a movie script (Go out there. When you meet them, look them square in the eye. Offer a firm handshake and don’t turn down the offer if they make one until we speak and I have a chance to beat you up and make you take the job).

Very few can give you useful tools to perform well on the interview. Even fewer are skilled enough to know what to say to someone to put them into the best frame of mind for a phone or in-person interview.

Many recruiters are little more than high pressure salesmen with little more than a passing interest in what is right for you and what will help you get the job you want.

I confess, I am paid by companies, rather than people so, ultimately I focus on filling positions EXCEPT when I coach someone in my Coaching program. There I spend time with someone to teach them what they need every step along the way.

When you evaluate recruiters, pay attention to what they say AND what they don’t say. You will learn a lot about them.

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Respecting Recruiters Part 2

I previously wrote an article called “Respecting Recruiters.”

It began with me saying that I strive for excellence, not perfection. No matter what I do, there will be people who will criticize and complain that I am incompetent because I have failed to find work for them, even though they are not paying me to find work for them (employers are paying me to find new employees for them) and even though I try to communicate with everyone with advice, tips, and information.

This Friday, prior to the holiday weekend, I received a resume of someone I was interested in but because I was leaving for the weekend, sent a quick note asking a few questions. I had a lot to take care of before going away.

The response I received was, “Call me.”

Now I must admit, I was annoyed. How tough is it to write why you’re looking for a job, what your compensation was and where you’ve been on interviews.

I wrote back saying my day was complicated and could he respond.

The response told me a lot about the person– “If u don’t have time to call instead of text cause your day is complicate . What company will do business with you. Not me.”

I presume he was using his phone to text a reply so I am not concerned about spelling.

It was the disrespect for another professional.

I don’t know what your experience is with other recruiters; from what I hear, few have good experiences to report.

What I do know is that this person let me know how disconnected they are from reality (Drop everything. I am important. Your schedule doesn’t matter. Only I do) and these are qualities my clients loathe when hiring leaders.

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Respecting Recruiters

I strive for excellence, not perfection. No matter what I do, there will be people who will criticize and complain that I am incompetent because I have failed to find work for them, even though they are not paying me to find work for them (employers are paying me to find new employees for them) and even though I try to communicate with everyone with advice, tips, and information.

Given that on a given Monday morning, I walk into about 100 – 120 new resumes emailed to me plus items I need to follow up on (guesstimate how long it takes to just follow up on those messages before I start with anything new).

I work with a research team that uses software and other techniques to find people to fill jobs. They make mistakes. The software makes mistakes.

DUH!

I received a fascinating email this week I thought I would share with you.

“I’m sick of your repeated, misguided communications to me. Stop already, mrbiggamehunter. I consider you a jerk and a legend in your own mind.”

Checking my system, this was the first time we had communicated with this person, the first time we had received a message from this person, had found their resume on a job board as someone actively looking for work and, amusingly enough, the person was a corporate recruiter.

Suffice it to say, we won’t be on one another’s Christmas card list.

Recently, another emailed me that he wished I die. Excuse me? Wishing death to me because an email was sent to them . . . or maybe because I was unsuccessful finding a job for them. I wrote poilitely asking what might have happened that had offended them but received no reply.

What do you expect of recruiters?

Do you spam them with resumes that do not demonstrate a fit for what they are looking for and expect that they will call you anyway? Do you expect them to check in with you every day with what is going on even though you aren’t paying them for your time?

What do you expect from recruiters?

I’ll tell you what you can expect . . . If your experience is vaguely close to what a client of theirs is looking for, they will try to introduce you to their client, coach you through the interview, try to help you earn as much as you can so that they can earn as much as they can and try to persuade you that the job fits your needs.

That does not give you permission to be nasty and criticize them if they make a mistake.

After all, if you had a manager who did that to you, wouldn’t you leave? If you had a spouse who treated you in that way, would you be happy?

As someone who has been working as a recruiter since 1972, I still make mistakes. I fire corporate clients, not because they make a single mistake but because of patterns of bad behavior.

Don’t be an ass and expect things of recruiters (perfection) that you yourself don’t provide in your work. We’re trying our best, just like you are.

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How to Get Noticed By Recruiters

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Do you really think employers are trying to help you? You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

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