Day: December 13, 2016

Finding the Firm That is Hiring | No BS Job Search Advice Radio

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Ep 591 Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter explains how to find out the name of the company that is hiring for that job when the Recruiter drops the ball.

 

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I want to help solve the puzzle that some of you have about finding a hiring firm.  There is a situation that happened to someone I knew.  It was in my coaching program and this happened to him several years ago.  He saw a listing from a recruiter, contacted the person the person did not get back to him for 3 or 4 days, even though they said they were getting them the next morning.  He called. No response.  He did it twice more, without response.  He really felt he fit the job and asked me for advice.

I said, “Here is what you do.  Sometimes, recruiters are a bit lazy so they will copy and paste job descriptions and turn them into ads.  Why don’t you do a Google search, taking some lines out of the job description and see if you can find the position.”  Sometimes, the recruiter will change a few of the words so try to start off with a broad sentence, like the 2nd or 3rd sentence, not necessarily the 1st.  You try to look at the requirements of the job and take 2 or 3 bullet points, especially if there is lengthy text. There. That entered into Google and see if it turns up something for you.

You can try the same thing with indeed but start with Google as your 1st choice.

What happened for this person is that they were able to find the position and apply for the job and the firm did not hire him!  The recruiters judgment was correct.  He wasn’t really a fit.  However, if you really believe you are and you want to do this, this is the simplest way to get in touch with the firm. See if you can find the third-party recruiter who is sufficiently lazy that all they did was copy and paste the job description and then you can find.

There’s always the advantage of working through the third-party recruiter.  And I want to be clear about this.  If you can work through the recruiter, you are advantaged. The firm is advantaged… There are lots of advantages for you, including the fact that they are handling all the scheduling for you, they are going to be the ones hocking or pushing the client to see you, they’re going to be negotiating and know the rough edges because I have a relationship with the client and speak to those rough edges and overcome the issues. There are lots of advantages of working with a recruiter.

However, if for some reason they dropped the ball or they make a judgment that you disagree with, this is the way to find that about the job so the you can apply directly

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Do you really think employers are trying to help you?

You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell you as much as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

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Should I Use “Apply With LinkedIn” When I Apply for a Job? | Job Search Radio

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Do you think “Apply with LinkedIn” makes sense? Let me tell you my thinking.

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If you have a question about job hunting, email me at JobSearchRadio@gmail.com. I can’t answer every question . . . but you knew that!

Do you think employers are trying to help you?

You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday. The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com is there to change that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Please give “Job Search Radio” a great review in iTunes. It helps other people discover the show and makes me happy!

You’re Crazy!!! (VIDEO)

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Quitting a job, changing jobs or careers, Often evokes a response from people that suggests, “You’re crazy!” Why is that?

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Have you ever tried to quit her job and leave a situation that everyone else thinks is ideal?  It’s safe, secure, you know the ropes… And what happened?

There are people who invariably say, “You are crazy.  You are nuts!  What are you doing?  You’ve got…” Then they list a whole host of things that are ideal about your current situation in their minds, but to you, well, you’ve already made the decision to move on.

There is an old Rumi poem (Rumi was a 6 century Middle Eastern poet) that suggests that when grandma thinks that you should stay in bed and take it easy, we are tempted by this.  Hey father’s stern slap is better for the boy and sends him off to school.

Here, this friend, this colleague is playing like grandma, wanting you to stay in bed.  Pulling the covers over your head and thinking that that is going to take away all the annoyance, all the discomfort in your current situation that has prompted you to look at something else. You’ve explored other alternatives and decide to make a different choice than what you have.

Now, I want to acknowledge that this person is expressing a sign of care.  They think you might get hurt.  On the other hand, is a part of them that doesn’t want to acknowledge their dissatisfaction as well.  After all, we’ve all been conditioned to believe that we all have to live in this pattern of behavior.. This box that leaves us feeling stuck and we don’t see alternatives.  You have found it alternative that you have found satisfying.  You may actually feel excited by this!

Interestingly, it’s not risk-free. You are going to experience a risk by doing this. In addition, you might fail!.  And, you know what? You’ve made that choice.  You might fail AND you might succeed.  And you might finish somewhere between the 2 poles of failure and success in some middle ground where basically you say to yourself, “I’m happy doing this. I didn’t get rich but I’m watching my kids grow up. And, you know, that’s okay.”

I think you have to ask yourself, “Why?  Why are they doing this?”  On the one hand they care and on the other hand you are symbol to them of someone who is leaving prison and getting to the outside and you have made a different choice.

It doesn’t matter if you’re quitting a job, or starting a business for yourself or any number of other things.  You could be changing your career altogether.  I know there are people who have worked in recruiting who hear that I have become a coach and they scratch their head in disbelief.  Frankly, for me, recruiting isn’t satisfactory anymore.  For me, it was worth the risk to take. Because a lifetime is not a long time.  I would like to think that this will all work out very well, I’m hungry to do this, I like helping people in this way.  It’s where my passion is.

For others, it’s okay to do a job and be paid a lot of money. That’s okay.  For me, it’s not enough.  Is it time to consider something else?

What’s not enough for you?

We are you prepared to be crazy in the eyes of other people?  It is important question to ask yourself because it takes away your excuses in your life.  It leaves you with the choice instead of surrendering/capitulating to your situation. You are making purchase decisions.

Again, you can make the conscious decision today and change it 6 months, a year, 2 years from now.  It makes no difference. Make a conscious choice.  Is this current life that you are living a good one?  Are you satisfied with it professionally, personally, the whole thing?

If you think it’s that time, which out to me.  My address is JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us.  In the subject line put the phrase, “It’s time to change.”  Let’s set up a time to speak in get to work with one another.

I would love to help you.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been coaching people to play their professional and personal games BIG for what seems like 100 years.

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