How to Respond to a Low Ball Job Offer – No BS Job Search Advice Radio

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter offers  a simple strategy for responding to a job offer lower than what you are looking for.

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Do you think employers are trying to help you? You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com changes that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Choosing the Right Job: It’s About More Than Money

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Millennials are criticized for a lot, but when you start to analyze what is being said about them, often, the criticism translates into, “These people are neither compliant nor docile (like we are). They won’t fit in.”

While millennials may overestimate their abilities, they do have one big thing right about their careers: They want to do meaningful work.

I don’t know anyone who, as a child, said to their parents, teachers, or friends, “I want to grow up and do really mind-numbing dreary, work” – and yet, many of us settle for this kind of job, sacrificing  our brain cells and self-worth for dollars and cents.

Part of the reason we do this is that we have been conditioned to fall in line from the time we were little:

“Shut up.”

“Don’t rock the boat.”

“Do what you’re told.”

“Or else.”

“You won’t get good grades, get into a good college, get a good job, or be able to hold on to a job.”

Millennials were conditioned differently, thought. They were encouraged, rather than threatened. As a result, they are often mocked by their older colleagues for receiving “participation medals” and treating them as badges of honor.

If you are willing to continue trading dollars for brain cells and self-worth, this article will not be for you. I have written many other books and articles, created plenty of videos and podcasts – you can use these to find your next job and choose the one that is best for you (Hint: It’s the one that pays the most money and doesn’t completely suck the life out of you.)

But if you want to try something different in an effort to recapture some of the spirit of your life, I want to help you. I’ll start by telling you to ask a few different questions when you’re applying to or interviewing for your next job – questions like:

  1. “What is the firm’s mission?”
  2. “How does this department or group serve that mission?”
  3. “How will what I do in this role complement that effort?”

WindowMany managers will struggle to answer these simple questions. After all, they are the cogs in the command-and-control industrial culture that made the 20th century successful.

But in this new, networked age we live in, we all seem to be drawn to communities. We want to feel like we are part of something significant, rather than human widgets.

What Makes a Great and Compelling Mission Statement?

When assessing the mission statements of potential employers, you should be looking for mission statements that contain a vision of how the world will be different if we do our work magnificently, as well as the actions we can take to make this change possible.

Unfortunately, a lot of firms now treat their mission statements like nice little anachronisms.

Here are a few samples of corporate mission statements. Which could you rally behind? (I have edited the beginning of each to remove a corporate identifier):

  1. “give people the power to share and make the world more open and connected.”
  2. “a leading global financial services firm providing investment banking, securities, and investment management services to a substantial and diversified client base that includes corporations, financial institutions, governments, and high-net-worth individuals.”
  3. “a global and innovative network of people who use their knowledge in the field of electrical engineering and electronics to benefit customers throughout the world; who learn continually; who work together closely; who have the courage to make quick decisions; who are proud of their efforts to contribute to the company’s success.”
  4. “Day after day, we are committed to sourcing the very best ingredients we can find and preparing them by hand, to vegetables grown in healthy soil, and pork from pigs allowed to freely root and roam outdoors or in deeply bedded barns. We are committed because we understand the connection between how food is raised and prepared and how it tastes. We do it for farmers, animals, the environment, dentists, crane operators, ribbon dancers, magicians, cartographers, and you.”

These statements came from the firms’ websites.

The first was from Facebook. Its vision of the world is to make it more open and connected. How? By giving people the power to share.

Is Facebook acting on that mission?

You bet!

Could you rally behind it?

I suspect you could.

MeetingLet’s look at the second one. I don’t see a vision of the world that will come about if this company performs its actions daily at peak. I just see a corporate description being passed off as a vision.

(By the way, No. 2 is the mission statement of Goldman Sachs.)

The third is interesting. It doesn’t qualify as a mission statement, but it is inspiring nonetheless. This firm, Siemens, starts with its people in its first statement. It basically says, “We are people with particular skills and traits.”

What is the action these people will take? They will “benefit [their] customers.”

Everything else in No. 3 is a fluffy distraction meant to make employees think they are important.

You may recognize the last mission statement as being that of a restaurant committed to sourcing food of a particular caliber because the company understands there is a connection between food raised and prepared in a particular way and how it tastes to you.

I don’t see this as a mission, but as a wonderfully detailed action statement without a vision of how the world will be bettered by the execution of this plan. Or you may see it as a mission because the vision is inferred (making you happy).

This is why Chipotle’s recent failure was so galling to so many. It failed to deliver on its pledge.

Of these four mission statements, I can see and get behind Facebook’s; I am inspired by Chipotle’s and would want to help it execute better; Siemen’s is dreary; and Goldman’s … well, it’s not even an also-ran.

At the end of the day, if I am going to do battle every day on behalf of a corporate entity and make a difference in the world, I know I want to feel like I am championing something meaningful (a genuine mission) and earning the fruits for all of my efforts (money, recognition, status, power, contributing to the greater good).

All of us, not just millennials, should be proud of what we do to contribute to the success of our firms and the world at large.

And yet we aren’t.

It’s time to change that from the bottom up and get out of the factory mindset we have been conditioned into.

 

© The Big Game Hunter, Inc. Asheville, NC  2016

 

Originally published on Recruiter.com

Choosing The Right Position Is About More Than Money

There are many thing Millennial are criticized for but when you start to analyze what I being said about them, often, the criticism can be translated into, “These people are neither compliant or docile (like we are). They won’t fit in.”

While they may over estimate their ability to perform, they do have one big thing right—they want to do meaningful work.”

I don’t know anyone who was a little boy or girl who said to their parents, teachers or friends, “ I want to grow up and do really mind numbing dreary work,” yet many of us settle for this kind of a job, sacrificing brain cell and self-worth for dollars.

Part of the reason we do this is that we were conditioned from the time we were little and going to school until now to:

“Shut up.”

“Don’t rock the boat>”

“Do what you’re told.”

Or else

You won’t get good grades, get into a good college, get a good job or, as an adult, we’ll get fired.”

Millennials were conditioned differently by being encouraged, rather than threatened and, as a result, are mocked by their older colleagues for receiving “participation medals” and treating them as badges of honor.

So, if you are very willing to continue trading dollars for brain cells or dollars for self-worth, this article will not be for you. I have written many wonder books and articles, created videos and podcasts that you can use to find your next job and choose the one that is best for you (HINT: It’s the one that pays the most money and doesn’t completely suck the life out of you).

But if you want to try something different, though, in an effort to recapture some of the spirit of your life, I want to help you and folks like you ask a few different questions.

Questions like:

“What is the firm’s mission?”

“How does this department or group serve that mission?”

“How will what I do complement that effort?”

Managers may struggle with answering those simple questions. After all, they are the cogs in the command and control industrial culture that made the 20th century successful. Yet in this new networked age we live in, we all seem to be drawn to tribes of people and want to feel a part of something significant, rather than simply human widgets.

What makes a great and compelling mission statement?

A vision of how the world will be different if we do our work magnificently

An action or actions we can take to make it possible.

 

It is unfortunate that firms now treat their mission statements like nice little anachronisms.

Here are a few samples of corporate mission statements. Which could you rally behind? (I have edited the beginning of each to remove a corporate identifier)

 

“give people the power to share and make the world more open and connected.”

 

 “a leading global financial services firm providing investment banking, securities and investment management services to a substantial and diversified client base that includes corporations, financial institutions, governments and high-net-worth individuals.”

 

“a global and innovative network of people

Who use their knowledge in the field of electrical engineering and electronics and electrical engineering to benefit customers throughout the world

Who learn continually

Who work together closely

Who have the courage to make quick decisions

Who are proud of their efforts to contribute to the company’s success”

 

“Day after day, we are committed to sourcing the very best ingredients we can find and preparing them by hand, to vegetables grown in healthy soil, and pork from pigs allowed to freely root and roam outdoors or in deeply bedded barns. We are committed because we understand the connection between how food is raised and prepared and how it tastes. We do it for farmers, animals, the environment, dentists, crane operators, ribbon dancers, magicians, cartographers and you.”

These statements came from the firm’s website.

The first was from Facebook. Their vision of the world is to make it more open and connected. How? By giving people the power to share.

Are they acting on that mission?

You bet?

Could you rally behind it?

I suspect you could.

Let’s look at the second one.

I don’t see a vision of the world that will occur if they perform their actions daily at peak. I just see a corporate description being passed off as a vision.

By the way, that is the mission statement of Goldman Sachs.

The third is interesting but doesn’t qualify as a mission but is inspiring nonetheless. This firm, Siemens, starts with its people in its first statement.

 

Allow me to simplify.

 

We are people with particular skills and traits.

What is the action they will take?

“Benefit our customers.”

Everything else is a fluffy distraction to make their employees think they are important.

You may recognize the last one as being a restaurant committed to sourcing food of a particular caliber (they are speaking of sustainability) because they understand there is a connection between food raised and prepared in a particular way and how it tastes to you.

I don’t see this as a mission but as a wonderfully detailed action statement without a vision of how the world will be bettered by it executing its plan well. Or you may see it as a mission because the vision is inferred (making you happy).

It’s why Chipotle’s recent failure was so galling. It failed at delivering on its pledge.

 

Of the four I reference, I can see and get behind Facebook’s, I am inspired by Chipotle’s and would want to help it execute better, Siemen’s is dreary and Goldman’s . . . that is not even an also ran.

At the end of the day, if we are going to do battle every day on behalf of a corporate entity and make difference in the world, I know I want to feel like I am championing something meaningful (Mission) and earning the fruits for all of my efforts (money, recognition, status, power, contributing to the greater good) for the sacrifice of time and ficus.

All of us, not just Millennials, should be proud of what we do to contribute to the success of our firms and the world at large.

And yet we don’t.

It’s time to change that from the bottom up and embrace the change and get out of the factory mindset we have been conditioned into.

 

 

© The Big Game Hunter, Inc. Asheville, NC  2016

 

Do you really think employers are trying to help you? You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com is there to change that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

I Got an Offer AND . . . | TheBigGameHunterTV

 

I got an offer from a firm for only a 10% raise and they told me salary would be frozen for the next year and a half. Can I negotiate? How should I do it?


Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube  for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me questions via phone, Skype or Facetime? Have your job search questions answered.

Get an Offer Letter

In this video, Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter encourages you to get an offer letter before resigning your job.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Email me if your firm is trying to hire someone.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube  for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me questions via phone, Skype or Facetime? Have your job search questions answered.

Making the Decision to Join or Not

In this video, Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter reminds you ( or tells you, depending upon your circumstances) a few of the criteria to be considered when evaluating a job offer.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Email me if your firm is trying to hire someone.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube  for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me questions via phone, Skype or Facetime? Have your job search questions answered.

Get an Offer Letter

In this video, Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter encourages you to get an offer letter before resigning your job.

———————————————————————————————————

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Email me if your firm is trying to hire someone.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube  for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me questions via phone, Skype or Facetime? Have your job search questions answered.

 

Deciding Between Multiple Job Offers

In this video, Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter explains the process you should use to decide between two or more job offers.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Email me if your firm is trying to hire someone.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me questions via phone, Skype or Facetime? Have your job search questions answered.

Accepting Less

In this video, Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter discusses whether you should consider accepting an offer for less money than you are currently earning.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Email me if your firm is trying to hire someone.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me questions via phone, Skype or Facetime? Have your job search questions answered.

Take The Pillow Test to Decide Whether to Change Jobs

 

In this video, Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter offers a simple test for helping you to decide whether to change jobs.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Email me if your firm is trying to hire someone.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me questions via phone, Skype or Facetime? Have your job search questions answered.