Applying for a Job

What Do I Put in the Subject of an Email When I Apply for a Job? (VIDEO)

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What should I put in the subject of an email when I applied for a job? There are so many possibilities!

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The question for today is:

What should I put in the subject of an email when I applied for a job?

For most of you, you are seeing something on walling or seeing an ad of some sort, you are seeing something that the company or the recruiting firm has cast the net for and you are applying for positions that way.  The subject line might read something like the title of the position so that in this way the reader is clear about the job you are applying for before opening your resume file.

If the company is asking you to include a job code or some other indicator that helps them specify which job this is, include that as well.  For example, it might refer to job 2714 accountant and mentioned a line of business.

Thus, you are making it clear to the reader why you are sending them an email because, after all, you have to remember their inbox.  You are thinking of one email that you are sending. They are receiving a lot of them in the course of the day.  You are helping them do triage on their inbox so they can go, “Oh!  It is a resume for that job.”

There is the 2nd condition when people apply for job.  That is when you are referred by someone.  In that instance, the subject line says that you are referred by so-and-so.  Thus, they know that you’re not just a stranger submitting a resume for a job; you are someone who has an introduction to them.

Then, in both cases you use the body of the email to stake out why it is you are qualified to do this job.  It isn’t a hardliner but what you are trying to do is make it clear to the reader why you are there and why you are emailing.

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Do you really think employers are trying to help you?

You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell you as much as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com changes that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

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Do Recruiters Care When I Email Them?

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It’s currently 2 a.m. and I got an email for a software engineering position earlier this afternoon. Do the recruiters take the time sent of the email into consideration before looking at the candidates resume?

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“Do recruiters care when I emailed them?”  

When I 1st read the question. I interpreted it as do they mind that I send them an email.  As I read further, I understood that what the person really wanted to know was about whether it matters at what time, I emailed them.  Let me read the complete original question.

Do recruiters care when I emailed them?  It is 2 AM, and I received an email about a software engineering position earlier this afternoon.  Do recruiters take the time sent of the email into consideration before looking at the candidate’s resume?

The short answer is, “No.”  It doesn’t matter.  Why?  You may think it indicates that you are excited/anxious… Things along those lines.  Remember, with “Delay Send,” in Microsoft, Outlook and other email clients, you can set up your email so that it is sent at any time of the day or night.  They do not actually know if you have sent it at 2 AM. All they know is that it is date and time stamp for them at 2 AM but you can set it up to send it at 7 PM.

It also doesn’t mean anything if your background does not fit.  After all, the most important variable for every recruiter is, “Does your background fit the job?”

Usually, this question comes from a less experienced person who may be stretching in order to try to get themselves considered.  After all, if you have the background, if you have the experience, there is no question that they will be in contact, right? If you don’t have the experience, you start to look at all these tangential things as being important.

What time you sent your resume is small stuff.  The most important thing you can do is demonstrate how your background fits the job.

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Do you really think employers are trying to help you?

You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell you as much as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com changes that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle for $.99 and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.”

Applying for Two Different Types of Jobs at the Same Company – Job Search Radio

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Does applying to two different kinds of jobs at one company lower your chances of getting either one?

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Does applying to two different jobs at one company significantly lower your chances of getting each one? I am interested in two different areas (and then they outline both of them). Would it be a bad idea to apply to both of them at the same company? How does the process usually work with processing applications?

Without outlining the specific jobs, I’m going to answer the specific questions.

As to whether reduces your chances by applying to more than one position, well, it depends. I interviewed someone for the show not long ago who was a corporate HR recruiter. He commented that his firm’s applicant tracking system was set up to recognize individuals who were, “frequent appliers.” In his firm which was a medical facility in the mid-Atlantic states, his firm would get applications from people for multiple positions that they weren’t qualified for. The system is set up to block them from applying because they are little more than a spammer to them.

“Yes,” you can think, “they may hit on one of them.” These people are not paying attention and don’t really care about the impact on the person reading the resume; they just want to work for the company. What firms look for our someone who can fill individual job. You can see the disconnect there.

Thus, multiple submissions can have an adverse impact unless you’re going to individual hiring managers. So, if you are applying through the applicant tracking system, you’re starting to lower your value to them. After all, even if there are two different recruiters handling the two different jobs, the system is going to recognize that you’ve applied through two different types of position. Even if they look at the resume, there recognize that it’s the same person applying for two different jobs, realize that you probably don’t fit either of these roles and reject your resumes.

Or they may look at them and think to themselves, “Spammer!” Or they may just simply say, “Huh,” and delete your resumes.

So, it can have an adverse impact, it can have a neutral impact, it can have a negative impact, at worst.

Let’s review the scenarios:

“Huh?” (rejected).

“Let’s consider him for this one, but delete the resumes for the other.”

“Spammer!”

There is no situation where they are going to say to themselves, “Fabulous! We received the resume for two different jobs!”

And the probability is that two different recruiters are coordinating two different jobs so there is going to be internal friction so they will have to figure out who is going to be the primary interviewer and who will be the secondary. Remember, corporate recruiters are now being evaluated based upon outcomes, too. Thus, it’s not simply you getting hired (which I know is all you really care about); for them, they have metrics they have to live up to and you will probably be wasting their time they could be better served elsewhere.

Continuing, how does the process work with applications? Would I be talking to the same recruiter? I’ve addressed that already.

The fact that you are submitting your resume to two different positions, involving two separate groups, demonstrates that you’re an amateur to them. As such, you are sending a signal to the employer that you don’t really have a career yet and are trying to sort things out. After all, in their thinking, you can be interested and qualified in one area, not the other. The fact that you’re  leaving it to the winds, to the ether to sort it out for you, sends messages to employers.

Even if the two jobs reflect an old paradigm and a new one, they say are themselves, “Ah! She’s trying to make a career change. She’s not good be happy doing this old work if we hire her for that.” You see, it’s not just as simple as whether it is going to one recruiter or two. It is the impact and that message that the recruiter or recruiters is left to interpret. Left to their own devices, recruiters pause, leave the window open and go on to something else. In their subconscious, they try to process the conflicting messages that you are sending by applying for two very different jobs.

Usually, when they pause, they hesitate for lengthy periods of time. When that happens, they come back and re-review the resume and don’t act on it then. Eventually, they reject the resume.

Can it turn out differently? Absolutely! How will it probably turn out? Not so good for you. You are far better off zeroing in on one thing you want that you are qualified for and going for that.

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Do you think employers are trying to help you? You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com is there to change that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn going to,

When NOT to Submit Your Resume – Job Search Radio

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Too often, people do dumb unthinking things in their job search. They call Monday morning at 7:30 AM expecting to reach someone and ask, “So what’s going on?” Probably not much different than Friday afternoon when you last called.

On this podcast, I discuss a mistake they job hunters make – – submitting their resume at the wrong time. I hope you aren’t making this mistake, but if you are STOP IT!

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Do you think employers are trying to help you? You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com is there to change that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

What’s the Best Way to Apply for a Job When I Don’t Know Anyone in the Company? (VIDEO)

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In this video, I provide three different ways to find out who the hiring managers before conceding and applying through HR and the applicant tracking system.

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The question I received was, “What’s the best way to apply for a job when you don’t know someone who works at the firm?”

This goes back to the mistake many job hunters made of only thinking that if I know someone who works at the firm, they will refer me and my network has its limitations and yada yada yada. As a result, people look at their network as only the person I know and obviously people you. So you have to remember that that person that you know can introduce you to some and that’s really the key to it.

Now professionally, you can do it very simply; you have a LinkedIn network (You do a LinkedIn network, right?) and you’re looking for the second level connections that you have to see whether or not there are people who you know who can introduce you to someone who already works there.

Barring that, what you do is you can use Google custom search tool that I developed, it’s a simple one LI-USA.info is the web address. What you do with it is use Boolean search and start searching for people using the tool. The idea is (number one) this is searching all public profiles on LinkedIn. Understand if they have a public profile, you can find it.

Number two is you are looking for people who might be in the role or someone who works at the firm who might work in the department who can give you a heads up, tell you who the right person is and give you a sense of what their like so you can reach out to them.

Why would they help me?

I assume if you’re asking the question, you’re willing to go the extra mile; if you not willing to go the extra mile, just apply to the applicant tracking system; but I think that’s the lazy approach.

The smart approach, the effective one is getting an introduction from someone who already works for the firm, who knows the hiring manager. So you can say to them, “look I understand that your firm is trying to hire someone. I don’t know who the hiring manager is. Would you point me to the right individual? I’ll keep your name out of it and reach out to them.”

Or you can say, “I understand firm or perhaps your department is looking for someone and I would love an introduction to the individual but, I know you don’t know me is you might not want to go out on a limb. Is there something that would help you feel more comfortable in referring me to this individual because I don’t want to go through the applicant tracking system or HR. What I want to do is just talk to the hiring manager.”

By doing this repeatedly, talking to different individuals at firms, you can eventually circle back to the applicant tracking system if you really need to. But by shortcutting the filter (the ATS, the HR individual) and trying to get to the manager. Whether you use LI-USA.info, whether you have an enormous LinkedIn network and can get to this individual, however, you do it…

By the way, there is the that the old school way I almost forgot to tell you the old school way. That is you get up, get on the phone and talk to the reception and ask for the person who’s responsible for (then describe the function that’s involved). Then allow yourself to get bounced around to different people who will eventually get you closer and closer and closer to the hiring manager until you actually find them. Sometimes if you call and ask about who’s the person who’s hiring for such and such, then you’re going to get HR and that’s what you are trying to avoid.

You allow yourself to get bounced from person to person. If they have no clue as to where to start, you might try something like investor relations or public relations and ask them. What you’re looking for something that is related but not necessarily the specific area. After all, they might have access to data that can point you to the right person.

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Do you really think employers are trying to help you? You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com is there to change that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn http://bit.ly/thebiggamehunter

The Easiest Way to Apply Isn’t Usually the Best Way – No BS Job Search Advice Radio

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter discourages you from applying to jobs using convenient buttons on job listings.

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today, I’m going to talk with you about a mistake the job hunters are making our convenience. Often, at the end of the job description, there are a group of buttons that allow you to apply with LinkedIn, apply with indeed, or apply with monster. These are not ideal ways of applying for jobs.

They are easy and convenient ways but they are not ideal. Let me give you an example.

You see a job description and say to yourself, “this is easy. All I have to do is click the apply with LinkedIn gotten.” Here the problems:

  1. LinkedIn usually doesn’t give you a great resume. Most of you right your profiles as a synopsis of your experience. So it’s kind of thin.
  2. For all of these, whether you use LinkedIn, indeed, or monster, you haven’t tailored the submittal to what the client is looking for. You are sending a generic response.

Before you actually apply using one of these buttons, think to yourself, “what am I sending? How does it demonstrate that I actually fit the job that’s involved?”

Without that, you’re actually flipping a bad resume like a burger at a fast food restaurant to the job at.

With many of these, certainly with the LinkedIn profile, many of you don’t put a phone number in your profile or open up your email address to the receiver. How was someone supposed to contact you? An email exchange? No! We are there to interview you. We want to talk to you.

Replying by email saying, “send me your phone number please. I would like to call you.” Garbage! It’s a waste of time!

If you think were making that phone call first when we have people who actually gave us their phone number to call them and made it easy for us to reach out to them, you’re mistaken.

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Do you think employers are trying to help you? You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com is there to change that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Ask The Big Game Hunter

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On this live blab, I answer two questions:

How should I respond to an ad that says they prefer to hire women and visible members of minority groups?

This is my second time interviewing with a firm; they seem to be stalling. What should I do?

Applying When You Are Underqualified

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I offer your best way of being considered when you look at a job description and see you are underqualified for the job.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube  for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

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Read the Damn Ad

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In this periscope I just recorded, I just got us receiving useless resume upon useless resume at all because someone doesn’t read the ad.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube  for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me questions via phone, Skype or Facetime? Have your job search questions answered.