Learn to Speak “Civilian”

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter speaks to those men and women separating from the military and encourages them to communicate in as way that the civilian workforce understands.

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Summary

I want to speak with those of you who are separating from the military and have a direct conversation with you about looking for work in the civilian sector.

1st of all, thank you for serving.  I appreciate the sacrifices that you’ve made.

Getting a job in civilian life is different than serving in the military.  In the military, you are an environment where people learn very quickly the importance of commitment, the importance of determination and the importance of your word having meaning.  In civilian life, it is a little bit different.  Plus, in all candor, I must say, the language of the civilian is different than that of the military.

I did an interview. Recently for “Job Search Radio” who is in HR professional for a university in North Carolina.  I read her bio and she is someone who established the PX in Iraq and when all is said and done, she said, “I listened to my bio (I use the military want more than her civilian one). I appreciate how different the languages in the military versus civilian life.”

I’m going to make a suggestion to you that I think will help you a lot.  Learn to speak civilian.  It is a different language to you.  There is a behavior that is different than in military life.

You don’t need to say, “Yes, sir,” or “No, ma’am.”  The word, “ma’am,” can be offensive to some women in civilian life.

There are other behaviors that are different.  5 minutes late in civilian life isn’t considered a big deal.  5 minutes late in the military can be the difference between life and death.  I get it.

When you are interviewing, you need to talk civilian.  You get there on time or early.  As my guest said, get there 15 minutes early in case you need to complete an application.

When all is said and done, learn to speak civilian.  You don’t need to say, “Yes sir,” or “No ma’am,” very often. Yes, I do appreciate the courtesy that is been extended by saying these things.  In civilian life, it is confusing to them.  It is not readily accepted.  At least, in the US, what often happens is that you are saying as being “odd.”  You don’t want to be seen that way because odd is usually dismissed.

You want to emphasize your leadership qualities and experience, no matter what rate you held.  After all, no matter where you are in the military, there qualities of leadership that you learn to display that you may be taking for granted, but you can express in an interview.  You can do it in ways that the civilian population can understand.

That extends to your resume as well.  Clearly, in an interview that is the most obvious place.

Do you think employers are trying to help you?

You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell you as much as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

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Jobs with the Federal Government for Veterans

 

I discuss a site that provides information about how to land a job with the US government.

 

Do you really think employers are trying to help you? You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com is there to change that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

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Learn to Speak “Civilian”

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter speaks to those men and women separating from the military and encourages them to communicate in as way that the civilian workforce understands.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a recruiter for more than 40 years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Email me if your firm is trying to hire someone.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me questions via phone, Skype or Facetime? Have your job search questions answered.

 

Ask Away: Live Q&A with Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

 

Folks were quiet! So I talked about what veterans can do when they leave the Armed Forces and how your job hunt when you work in an open environment.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a recruiter for more than 40 years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Email me if your firm is trying to hire someone.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me a question via email, chat or phone ? Reach me via PrestoExperts

 

Veterans or Soon to Be Veterans: Have You Considered This Option?

 

In this video, I discuss one of the options available to veterans or soon to be veterans that pays extremely well.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a recruiter for more than 40 years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Email me if your firm is trying to hire someone.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me a question via email, chat or phone ? Reach me via PrestoExperts or Clarity.fm

Networking When a You Leave the Military

 

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter encourages veterans to do networking to find their next job and explains who to network with.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a recruiter for more than 40 years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Email me if your firm is trying to hire someone.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me a question via email, chat or phone ? Reach me via PrestoExperts or Clarity.fm

Transitioning from The Military

 

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter simplifies what you need to do in order to successfully transition from the military.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a recruiter for more than 40 years.

Follow him at The Big Game Hunter, Inc. on LinkedIn for more articles, videos and podcasts than what are offered here and jobs he is recruiting for.

Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us. There’s a lot more advice there.

Email me if your firm is trying to hire someone.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Pay what you want for my books about job search

Subscribe to TheBigGameHunterTV on YouTube for advice about job hunting and hiring. Like videos, share and comment.

Trying to hire someone? Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

Do you need more in-depth coaching? Join my Coaching program.

Want to ask me a question via email, chat or phone ? Reach me via PrestoExperts or Clarity.fm

Job Search Radio – Separating from the Armed Forces

When many of us watch or listen to the news and hear the reports from Afghanistan, Iraq or other places American men and women serve, we may cheer their efforts or be offended by them depending upon our views of the decisions politicians made to place them in these situations.

However, these men and women are largely forgotten when they return home and face challenges that we in civilian life cannot imagine.

On this show, I interview Bronze Star winner, Michael Warren of Transitional Assistance, Inc about his experiences as well as tactics for those of you separating from the military can find work.

 

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You Can Fix Stupid

Originally published on LinkedIn

 

I’m sometimes left with questions about the sanity of large institutions, particularly as it relates to veterans.

Last week, I interviewed Michael Warren of Transitional Assistance in Hawaii for Job Search Radio (The show goes live on Monday at JobSearchRadio.com, WebTalkRadio.net, iTunes and a host of other places. I’ll change the links once the show goes live).

In my interview, Warren, awarded a Bronze Star Medal of Valor and numerous awards, having served in Viet Nam, Afghanistan and elsewhere was told that he would never be hired for a job he had applied for at a particular military base because the system the government had blocked his employment.

Then I sat with a friend Chris, a former Air Force pilot who struggled to launch his civilian career upon separation from the Air Force and is now in grad school. Chris told me a story about medical technicians who were interviewed by Ellen DeGeneres who could not get a job as a emergency room technician for lack of a particular certification.

Do you have the idea that a class could have solved that problem?

If universities, community colleges and trade schools counted military experience toward certification and/or adopted alternative certifications, this problem could be solved. After all, public schools allow teachers to qualify after attending alternative certification programs.  Veterans could also serve as an apprentice for a fixed period of time followed by testing. There are schools like The University of Phoenix and Embry-Riddle that offer certification programs at military bases worldwide. Why not create an alternate path to certification?

Is there any wonder why despite all the feel-good advertising of “Hire a Vet” the unemployment rate for veterans returning from multiple tours of combat is higher than for the civilian population?

But they don’t have the skills.

Bull.

Most of the time, your systems block revealing those skills and certainly don’t recognize human talents.

Is the algorithm in your applicant tracking system weighted to recognize leadership experience in military rank?

No.

It gives a blank stare to an obvious advantage that the returning officer has.

As a matter of fact, for most of you, your ATS is programmed to exclude the veteran through its weighting to a particular language of communicating experience.

Like my previous article, “The Billion Dollar Staffing Mistake,” business and government in its effort to leveling the playing field and track its neutrality has dismissed an incredibly talented pool of people, veterans, while proclaiming its support of them and then complains that it can’t find enough talented people with leadership skills and experience to fill jobs in their organization.

You can’t make this stuff up!

Veterans have been immersed in a high performance culture where expectations are high and failure is unacceptable. Business, in particular HR and the systems it employs needs training to understand the asset that is so freely available and so willing to perform at high levels.

It brings me back to the subject of “The Billion Dollar Staffing Mistake.”  Fit.

In that article, I lamented that business needs to hire more rebels instead of people who fit in.

After all, most of your firms would not hire Steve Jobs,  Larry Ellison, Anna Wintour, Jay-Z,  Michael Dell or Bill Gates, thought leaders all and individuals who created tremendous value . . . but they don’t fit into your culture.

Maybe your culture has a problem if it rejects such people and veterans.

I was listening to a podcast this weekend where Larry Winget, quite a character, himself, told a story of a 6’4″ soldier in Afghanistan sleeping uncomfortably in a 6’x8″ room. He had returned home to reading Facebook messages complaining about a co-worker’s coffee not being hot enough and complaining about the kids.

Do you really want someone to fit in with that person, or would you rather they lead that person back to thinking differently, or just rid of the whiner?

 

In this case, you can fix stupid and it isn’t hard.

You just have to think before you automatically reject.

 

 

 

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a recruiter for more than 40 years.

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