Thank You Notes | No BS Job Search Advice Radio

EP 805 Should you still send a thank you letter?

Summary

Thank you letters. Should you send a thank you after your interview?

The purpose of the thank you letter was originally exactly that – – thank you. The unintended benefit was that you put yourself in front of the firm one more time, put yourself in front of the employer one more time. It was a reminder.

The history of thank you letters is that you mail them 100 years ago. You mail them 10 years ago. Because they got there a few days after the interview it was one last reminder for the firm that was hesitating. These days, it doesn't work to mail a thank you letter. It's really about an email and if and when you should send it.

1 of the advantages of a thank you letter is that it communicates interest. You're going to go an extra step and express that and have a selling opportunity. That's really the key. If we were going to do is send a thank you letter that says, "I just want to thank you for making time today. I believe I agree qualifications for the role. I look forward to hearing from you about next steps," that's not a useful letter because it really nothing to sell you as being the solution to a problem.

If you sell yourself in this way, "I want to thank you for making time tonight. I was thinking about our conversation and I wanted to drive home a few points with you." Then you start selling yourself in the context of your qualifications for the role. If you start promoting yourself and your capabilities to solve the problem, "My mind is really been racing since our conversation thinking about different ways I could contribute. I was wondering if we might be able to get together next week for another conversation (another interview) and I can discuss some of those thoughts I've had." That is a useful thank you letter.

That works for certain types of positions. However, if you are an administrative assistant, if you are in a role like customer service, stick with the "enthusiasm approach" and reinforce that you are qualified to do the job. For example, if you work at a call center, you might say, "Thanks for making time to speak with me today. I just want to let you know how interested I am and I want to drive home a few points with you." Then you might list some things that were in your resume... "I handle 15% more calls than the typical call center person without escalation." If you're an accountant, you might say, "I have yet to miss a deadline in my time with my firm. I hope the organization save X amount of money by doing such and such. I'm the kind of person who thinks after hours about ways to improve operations..." On and on and on. You start emphasizing additional qualities about yourself that may have surfaced in the interview, but may not have surfaced of the interview that really allow you to differentiate yourself from others.

"I have a lot of enthusiasm for this kind of work. Would be possible for us to continue the conversation next Tuesday?" That becomes a way that you are making a suggestion and if they don't respond in a timely way, there is a message to it. The message may be that they are not interested or they may not be ready to move forward. Remember, it is 1 of those 2. After all, if they are excited, they leap all over it. Remember, it doesn't mean that they are not interested AND it could be that they are not interested. It may also mean that they're not ready because they have other people on the agenda to meet with.

Thank you letters can go a long way toward helping you IF YOU THINK OF THEM AS ANOTHER SALES DOCUMENT. If you think of them as an ordinary "thank you," then, they are really crap.

One more thing. They used to be mailed. You can't mail them anymore because they don't get there at any time before they make a decision because by the time they get there by mail, they already made a decision. You have to send it out the next day by email at the very latest. If you have a 9 AM interview, it has to go up by 9 AM the next morning. If you have had a 5 o'clock interview, it should really be sent by noon the next day. I know that's not 24 hours, but is still the idea that you are excited, you have been thinking about it, you want to reinforce of drive home some of the things that were said at the meeting or, based upon what they said, you start thinking about…" You get the idea.

Again, you state you letters as a sales tool. They will help you. Are they a guarantee that you're going to get hired? Of course, not. They can certainly separate you from the person who doesn't do anything, who doesn't want to communicate interest. 1 of the reasons that has that effect is that employers, when they get to the point of deciding that they want to make an offer, they want the offer to be accepted. They see someone who is excited as being someone who will join them versus the person who is cool and detached and may have great skills, but is less interested or expresses less interest. It's embarrassing to manager to extend an offer that gets turned down.

Get your thank you letter out start racking up some points.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a coach who worked as a recruiter for what seems like one hundred years. His work involves life coaching, as well as executive job search coaching and business life coaching. He is the host of “Job Search Radio” and “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” both available through iTunes and Stitcher.

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The Post-Interview Checklist | No BS Job Search Advice Radio

EP 793 Here’s a checklist of things to do after an interview.

Summary

Most of the time, when Holly and other people do videos about interviewing, we talk about either the preparation for the interview or the process of the interview, how to answer questions better, how to be more effective in the room, etc.. But there's a part that takes place after the interview and I think it gets neglected.

Everyone knows about thank you letters... But I don't think that's really the 1st place to start. You see, after the interview, what I want you to do, when you get back to your computer, I want to sit down and write down a few notes.

The 1st question I wanted you to answer for yourself is, "Why do you think you can do this job?" Again, this is for yourself.

2. "Why do you think you want this job?"
3. "What about the position or the firm is attractive or interesting to you?"
4. "What red flags came up as a result of the interview?"
5. "What questions do you still want answered?"
6. "Do you want to continue interviewing for this position?"

I don't want you to start at the end; I really want to go to the individual steps. What I see happen over the course of time is that people's thoughts or feelings a better organization or about a position start to dissipate. They forget these questions. They forget their initial impressions. They forget a lot of things that are taking place. By writing it down and saving it, you have a resource that you can refer to before the 2nd interview and, let's say you get to the offer stage and you have multiple choices. You can go to the process of reviewing your answers. Each of these questions for each firm and what has taken place afterwards, not just after a 1st interview, but after the 2nd interview, after a third interview, you do this process so that everything is fresh, it is a reference point for you and you can move on.

Again, I do want you to send thank you letters that are really very simple. A thank you letters basically going to be an email that starts off by thanking them for making time to meet with you, talking about your interest in the position, reviewing what you learned and how your background matches up to it, and indicating that you're interested in moving ahead for the next step.

In reviewing your answers to each question, the last one is, "Do you want to continue interviewing for this position?" I want you to keep doing that one more round if you have a "no," to that question. The reason is that you may have missed on something, you may be confused about something in the next meeting will clarify it.

Again, don't close doors on this round; close the math the next round. If you are still not satisfied.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a coach who worked as a recruiter for what seems like one hundred years. His work involves life coaching, as well as executive job search coaching and business life coaching. He is the host of “Job Search Radio” and “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” both available through iTunes and Stitcher.

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

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How and When to Follow Up After An Interview | No BS Job Search Advice Radio

EP 787 How and when to follow-up.

Summary

The subject of this 1 is when to follow-up and how to follow up.

There is a pretty common school for that is correct about sending a thank you note immediately after the interview. However, to me, the follow-up really starts at the end of your interview when they are about to wrap it up and they say something like, "any final questions?" Or, you know the interview is Andy and 1 of your questions needs to be, "When do you expect to finish this round of interviews?" The can always be a delay but you are getting a sense of their timeline.

"You're the 1st person were meeting with that we don't have anyone else scheduled."

"I understand but when do you expect to be following up on this round?"

Or they might say, "We have 3 or four more people scheduled. We should be done by the end of next week."

"Terrific. Do you mind if I check back with you after that?"

"No. No problem at all."

"Great!"

After the interview, send a thank you note that thanks them for making the time to speak with you. Don't just simply send it to one person for a group. Send it to each individual person who you met with. Tailor it slightly differently for each person. Email it, don't US mail it. Don't go to your car, write it out, and delivered back to their reception desk. It seems cheesy.

My suggestion is to get a card from everyone that you meet with as you are finishing up. If they don't have a card, call reception, call the main number and indicate that you want to get an email address for someone that you interview with. I'm sure you'll be able to get it. If not, you can get from LinkedIn or do a Google search. It's not a big deal.

Send a thank you note to each and once the date approaches, and you haven't heard anything, I know the convention is to stay in touch by sending an article but like that idea because of her from too many managers who said to me, "Are they sending this to me for? I don't get this." It becomes a turnoff to them. That's obviously not what you want to do.

You get to the point we were expecting to hear (if you are working as a recruiter, contact the recruiter; if your cup working directly with the firm, contact the firm), if the recruiter is in getting back to you. Maybe that's a single with the firm wasn't interested or that he or she doesn't know yet. Give it a day and then contact the firm directly.

When all is said and done, the message that you might lead with is, "Hi! When we met, you indicated that you would be done with your round of interviewing around now. I haven't heard anything. Have things been delayed at all?"

Wait for them to call back; if they don't, take it is the signal of rejection because if they were interested, there by trying to keep you warm while the process extended itself.

Again, from a process perspective, find out timeline at the interview, send a thank you note to each person that you met with afterwards, from there, follow-up, not on the day, but the day after they told you that the interview cycle would be done just to check in.

"Hi! I just want to see where you stood on your interviewing has there been a delay?" Then wait for them to call or not. All the while, you continue to interview so that you are not depending on this 1 firm for whether or not you are going to be landing a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a coach who worked as a recruiter for what seems like one hundred years. His work involves life coaching, as well as executive job search coaching and business life coaching. He is the host of “Job Search Radio” and “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” both available through iTunes and Stitcher.

Are you interested in executive job search coaching, leadership coaching or life coaching from me?  Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us and put the word, “Coaching” in the subject line.

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What Do You Have to Lose? | No BS Coaching Advice Radio


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Have you ever finished second on a job interview? Here’s an idea for something that you can do and maybe you’ll win it later!

Summary

I have a great idea can be helpful to many of you.

Never lose our job? You were beaten out. The manager agonized, but chose the other person. It happens. Have you really wanted that job? Yeah, and it's a disappointment when you lose out. Here's my idea.

It's not like you are incompetent. It's not that you are a loser. I just of the other person market themselves better than you. Maybe they interview better. Maybe they presented better.

Sometimes, there is a single buyer's remorse where an employer winds up deciding a few months later, "I really wish I had that other person."

2 months after you the job has been closed down, after you been turned down, put a little reminder on your calendar and contact the recruiter who presented you (if you are present. The buyer recruiter) or contact the manager directly.

Say, "I! How are you? How's the new person working out?" You keep your mouth shut. "They are doing great!" "I just want to know how much I enjoyed meeting with you and how interested I was in that role. I took a chance that maybe this person wasn't working out so I thought I would reach out to you." It's a great tactic

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a coach who worked as a recruiter for what seems like one hundred years. His work involves life coaching, as well as executive job search coaching and business life coaching. He is the host of “Job Search Radio,” “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.”

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching from me?  Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us and put the word, “Coaching” in the subject line.

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JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

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Thank You Letters | No BS Job Search Advice Radio


A tv network made it seem like thank you letters are an absolutely required. Should you bother sending one?

 

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a coach who worked as a recruiter for what seems like one hundred years. His work involves life coaching, as well as executive job search coaching and business life coaching. He is the host of “Job Search Radio” and “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” both available through iTunes and Stitcher.

Are you interested in executive job search coaching, leadership coaching or life coaching from me?  Email me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us and put the word, “Coaching” in the subject line.

Do you have a question you would like me to answer? Pay $25 via PayPal to TheBigGameHunter@gmail.com  

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

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Why Won’t They Give Me Feedback When They Reject Me? | Job Search Radio

One of the great complaints the job hunters have, both from corporate and agency recruiters, is that they do not get feedback when they are rejected for position.

On today’s show, I explained why they don’t get feedback when they reject you.

rejected

Summary

Why don’t companies give feedback?

am going to give you very, succinct answers.1. By not responding, they are giving you feedback.Your background doesn’t fit a job you applied for. That is very clear feedback. You just don’t like it. You want to be told why.

Why they don’t tell you why they don’t respond to your resume or chose someone else to interview, why your interview, cause them to reject you in the 1st place, the 2nd plot point, the final interview… Why aren’t they communicating?

Why should they? Because you want to know? When did you wind up on their payroll? When did you become the individual that they were supposed to focus on?

Oh, it would be very nice if they did that. It would show great respect and care for me if they did that.

That is not the job. Their job is to fill positions and to hire people to do stuff.

But it would only take 2 or 3 minutes!

Not when you start arguing with people and that is really what happens a lot of times. People go, “But but but but but… I know I can do this job!” And there is no convincing them at that moment that their background doesn’t fit.

As a result, firms have learned by the behavior of your predecessors not to risk wasting time by giving you honest information.

Sorry, the people who have preceded you have soured the well. They have poisoned it by arguing. They’ve done it by behaving in ways that cause employers, “Screw it. There is nothing in it for us. Don’t bother.”

I know as a third-party recruiter, every once in a while, I have shown mercy and have told someone what has been said. I want to acknowledge that at times I have heard discriminatory things from firms and I argued with them about their bigotry and been taken off the vendor list as a result. I won’t stand for bigotry.

That’s the issue, often with employers. They don’t want to be identified as bigots because the real reason is you are too old, you are too young,, you are to this, you are to that.

If it is a knowledge issue, let’s break it down further.

Your resume doesn’t show that your background fits the job. Sorry. What else are they going to tell you. They didn’t respond.

They saw better resumes. “What made those better resumes?” What difference does it make? Your background wasn’t good enough to get in the door.

If it is in the interview phase, I must, in all honesty tell you that you already know.You know there are points in the interview that you didn’t perform well so just accept the fact and you learn something from it. 

You don’t have to be told to your face that the issue was your performance.

Duh!

You sensed it during the interview, you lost their attention at particular points… If you are a fresher or an entry-level person at 1 of these mass interviews (a firm brings in 40 people), a certain number of people performed better than you, they had better education, the better answers to interview questions, they prepared better for the occasion.

A lot of the reasons you don’t get results, I cover at JobSearchCoachingHQ.com because the issue often is lack of preparation or poor preparation. I coach people through the site and answer questions. But, more importantly, I provide time by offering great content that you can review at your leisure. Videos, podcasts, articles, all my books are there to teach about job hunting. Everything is there that allows you to learn you need to know in order to be effective with your job search. 

You don’t need them to tell you. You see where it is breaking down. As I’ve said many times, if you are not getting calls about your resume, your resume stinks or you don’t demonstrate that you have the skills to do the job that you are applying for.

If you’re getting to the phone interview, but not being invited in for an in person interview, you don’t phone interview well.

If you invited in for the in person with the hiring manager and you are not invited back,… You see where I’m going with this? Everything in the process gives you feedback.

The thing you need to do is improve, not whine. That’s really what this question is. “Why didn’t they give me any feedback? I want to know why question!”

They are telling you and they are giving you feedback. The system demonstrates why and where it is breaking down. Don’t be foolish. Just improve.

If you have a question about job hunting, email me at JobSearchRadio@gmail.com. I can’t answer every question . . . but you knew that!

Do you think employers are trying to help you?

You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday. The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

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When to Follow Up

In this video, Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter explains when to follow up after an interview and when to follow up on your résumé.

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